Pichet Posted November 14, 2009 Share Posted November 14, 2009 ... Ha! Ha! False alarm!... Gotcha!!! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 14, 2009 Author Share Posted November 14, 2009 Wow! 33 views in so little time must signify there's some interest, after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 16, 2009 Author Share Posted November 16, 2009 32 more! Who would have imagined!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZagJoe Posted November 16, 2009 Share Posted November 16, 2009 Views are hardly a good way to tell interest.... bots, noobs, and people who just check every thread because having unread annoys them (me). A poll would be a better idea. That being said, the linux portion does seem to be possible (livecd, not). I've managed to get both the pandora client and saver2 working under wine with some work... see the last page in my thread. However, as it's 450mb, and contains stuff that needs a windows license to use, a livecd can't be done. Be silly to have a livecd for it at any rate because you need hard storage (and lots of it) to save downloaded music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 M'well, of the 91 views in a couple days a few must be of human origin so i say the title does generate interest and even if yours is to deny it. Don't worry about storage as i've got plenty of it when using a LiveCD/Flash unit. There is no need for Windows stuff, maybe your solution requires it but i can't imagine that only Windows makes timeshifting possible - at least in theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimmer Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Well I am working on a pandora client written in python, so if I ever get to that, it will easily run on linux. That is if I get to it (I plan way to many apps and never have enough time to do them :() Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZagJoe Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 M'well, of the 91 views in a couple days a few must be of human origin so i say the title does generate interest and even if yours is to deny it. Don't worry about storage as i've got plenty of it when using a LiveCD/Flash unit. There is no need for Windows stuff, maybe your solution requires it but i can't imagine that only Windows makes timeshifting possible - at least in theory. Well... there already is a pandora client for linux... wouldn't be too hard to mangle that to make it dump the audio data to a file on the disk with metadata.... have some other app mangle it idk What i've been trying to get across that just trolling (yes, i would regard what you are doing as trolling now) for some guy to put a tool on a livecd simply because you are lazy and cba to either make your own/modify something/get another working etc will not get it done and honestly it's annoying. Never mind the whole premise of a livecd for ripping music from pandora is flawed. First, as a livecd is by definition a read only medium it is thusly ill-suited for downloading files; flash drive or not, it's not a typical situation to have a large amount of storage available on a livecd much less persistent. Actually, I've never even heard of someone using a livecd for much more than a temporary "solution" or to try something. Maybe if you were at a school which allows booting off of cds (rare) and didn't have a laptop.... but I'd be more concerned with getting work done. It's a niche product. Something to rip music on linux isn't a bad idea, there's even been posts on how to do it with scripts, there's my "solution" and there is an open source client in c just asking to be modified. If you want something - try it yourself, don't simply ask in every single thread for someone to wipe your ass. If you were asking for help, I wouldn't even mind doing that because i rather like (some) challenges. But trolling for someone to make you a livecd is just annoying. Completely off topic, I have wondered about making a hardware pandora client... take a microprocessor, a dedicated i2c mp3 decoder, wifi, and some ram for a buffer and something might just happen. As well as taking one of the original zipits and putting pianobar on it (77mhz arm, 16mb ram, 2mb flash, wifi, audio output). The difficult bit is about 32mb of ram is needed for the biggest files... it's seemingly possible to just download as needed (aka the remote server only sends data as needed... "throttled" dont have much experience with the annals of net stuff so i am not sure) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 I believe your obtuse perspective just doesn't allow you to see what's the point with LiveCDs so i'm not surprized to find out that you must invent a character to call him names and put a few lies in his mouth. Obviously, it's clear we have nothing in common to discuss. The fact remains that this thread as it's been titled did attract the attention of others and i can see all too well how irritating it is for you. I'd wonder why under normal circumstances but the matter was settled since you have pronounced your verdict months ago. Call me whatever you like, you're a bad looser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 I'll be lurking around from time to time, just as i've done before for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZagJoe Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 I believe your obtuse perspective just doesn't allow you to see what's the point with LiveCDs so i'm not surprized to find out that you must invent a character to call him names and put a few lies in his mouth. Obviously, it's clear we have nothing in common to discuss. The fact remains that this thread as it's been titled did attract the attention of others and i can see all too well how irritating it is for you. I'd wonder why under normal circumstances but the matter was settled since you have pronounced your verdict months ago. Call me whatever you like, you're a bad looser. I did not say I don't see a point to livecds. They're great tools for fixing a computer, running a kiosk, trying out a new dsitro, or otherwise temporary usage. Saved my ass a few times with knoppix actually. On the other hand, they are not designed to facilitate downloading huge amounts of data due to the read-only medium implied by CD. A flash drive distro would be a bit different: I still don't see the point in booting up a separate os just to save music, but it would be cake to setup, and more importantly, doesn't (shouldn't) need much outside help to do. What i detest is posts like: I'll sure try, when the 'Linux'-based LiveCD becomes available... Any "ready-made" Linux LiveCD in a foreseable future? I was dreaming for a second!!! Well, i've been waiting for a "ready-made" Linux LiveCD since about two years ago! Good luck... I knew it! By the time there's a "ready made" Linux LiveCD for this i'm afraid it won't do much because there won't be much left to do!!! And so on. Stuff does not happen by wishing for it - it gets done when people work on it. Install python, use one of the various scripts, or install gcc and mess about with pianobar. Bam. You're on your way to ripping from pandora on linux. I'll be lurking around from time to time, just as i've done before for years now. Guess you didn't need that livecd that badly anyways, eh? Well, that's your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 It's funny you must quote these sentences and not mention that i've done all i could to help, contrary to the character you've invented just to justify your out-of-topic attacks: http://hak5.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7173 The words are there and yet they don't seem to get through but that's OKay. I didn't ask you anything, not even to intervein in this thread as i already knew long ago you're against it... Perhaps it would do you some good to leave the sky high world from where you distribute those mix of lessons seasoned with a wealth of insults and climb down to earth before your engulfed ego threatens to explode. Perhaps not, i never really needed you around anyway. It's only a thing you know, it won't even bite so there's no reason for you to get that involved. Do me a favour, ignore me if you can't recognize what's so obvious: this thread's titled did attract other readers, like it or not. Considering that you are not interested please don't try to obstruct with your useless comments! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZagJoe Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 It's funny you must quote these sentences and not mention that i've done all i could to help, contrary to the character you've invented just to justify your out-of-topic attacks: http://hak5.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=7173 The words are there and yet they don't seem to get through but that's OKay. I didn't ask you anything, not even to intervein in this thread as i already knew long ago you're against it... Perhaps it would do you some good to leave the sky high world from where you distribute those mix of lessons seasoned with a wealth of insults and climb down to earth before your engulfed ego threatens to explode. Perhaps not, i never really needed you around anyway. It's only a thing you know, it won't even bite so there's no reason for you to get that involved. Do me a favour, ignore me if you can't recognize what's so obvious: this thread's titled did attract other readers, like it or not. Considering that you are not interested please don't try to obstruct with your useless comments! I did not look into old posts (2 years old...) because I've only started reading this forum however many months ago when i first made changes to the old fiddler plugin. So you did something there. Good. Once upon a time, you did in fact make something useful. Why stop? Or perhaps are you working on the Next Big Thing as far as pandora on linux is concerned? What was/is there to gain by posting in most threads relavant to pandora about some ill concieved livecd that you'd evidently like someone to make for you. (what i've surmised by reading your posts over time; feel free to correct me) It's like a broken record, lol. It's a forum. You posted words. Words were read. Opinions were made. Words were written. Did you read them? Just to be an ass: Again, to judge by reads is foolish. For all you know, 80 of those reads were a bot. Or a bug in the forum software. Or people who have no interest in such a thing. Etc. To repeat what i've said in some other thread i can't remeber: Why... do you need a livecd so very, very badly? I can understand wanting to listen/rip on linux, and there are options for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 Why LiveCDs? You know what, i agree that the whole thing is fine the way it is as far as you're concerned... I may have been around for a while but i still think life is too short so pardon me if i don't even try to explain it to your omnipotent being! There's a cost for having you around, a price i'm not ready to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZigZagJoe Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Why LiveCDs? You know what, i agree that the whole thing is fine the way it is as far as you're concerned... I may have been around for a while but i still think life is too short so pardon me if i don't even try to explain it to your omnipotent being! There's a cost for having you around, a price i'm not ready to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 18, 2009 Author Share Posted November 18, 2009 The troll is amused, of course he is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimmer Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Pichet what are you talking about yourself in 3rd person () Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 19, 2009 Author Share Posted November 19, 2009 It's a well known troll characteristic to play mirror games and i've seen my share of such annoying tricks before!... What's your purpose again? Ah yes, none whatsoever: it must be only an interlude meant for your own amusement to obstruct the thread with off-topic remarks. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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