digininja Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 I fancy defcon but it is a lot of cash to fly other there. Stay for only the weekend and price per day is huge, stay for a week and the cost of living goes up. I'll probably do Toorcon again this year, see if we can make good on the proposed trip across the border to Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted March 15, 2009 Author Share Posted March 15, 2009 I fancy defcon but it is a lot of cash to fly other there. Stay for only the weekend and price per day is huge, stay for a week and the cost of living goes up. I'll probably do Toorcon again this year, see if we can make good on the proposed trip across the border to Mexico. Yeah defcon can be fun but a little expensive now that the pound is shit, although HAR2009 is a little closer to home and I'm sure will be just as fun. If you go to Mexico and an drunk American asks you do go to a donkey show, just say no. Trust me on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digininja Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 Pauldotcom have a sweeper mentioning a donkey show, I'd always wondered but never enough to google it. I've just found BruCON which could be quite good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingwray Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 HAR2009 looks a little expensive on the ticket front, early bird tickets are €155, and Belgium and Holland aren't the most exciting places in the world in my mind. I'll probably be going to the CCC again this year as I really enjoyed that, plus the dates are easy to get off for me. I'm kinda looking for something equivalent in the US to go to yearly, in the summer months obviously! I really can't believe that the UK hasn't got a decent con, we should be ashamed of ourselves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted March 16, 2009 Author Share Posted March 16, 2009 HAR2009 looks a little expensive on the ticket front, early bird tickets are €155, and Belgium and Holland aren't the most exciting places in the world in my mind. I'll probably be going to the CCC again this year as I really enjoyed that, plus the dates are easy to get off for me. I'm kinda looking for something equivalent in the US to go to yearly, in the summer months obviously! I really can't believe that the UK hasn't got a decent con, we should be ashamed of ourselves! HAR2009 is a matter of a flight to Amsterdam and an hours train ride I believe, although you will also need to make your way from the train station so a taxi as well. I know a few people that are just driving, but yeah its not the easiest place to get to. There has been a few attempts at a UK based con but each time people try and find sponsorship to cut ticket costs and they don't find enough, so they end up wanting BlackHat style prices for something that is untested and has content no where near as good. So they don't sell many tickets and they get canceled. I see the issue as being no one is willing to front the money. If you could get 20 people to stump up £1000 for seed money I'm sure you could put something cool together but I don't see that happening as look at the London Hacker space planning, a few people are only giving a hundred quid at most and loaning a little bit of money, you would need £80 a month from everyone just to make it even worth while once its set up and you need at least 10k to get it off the ground and have a small back up fund. People just don't want it enough or believe in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingwray Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Yeah, I kinda guessed that those were the reasons for their not being one. Its still a shame though as there is a lot of potential in the UK but everyone seems to keep to themselves a lot more than in other countries. Anyway, going back on topic, shall we say that the decision on the dates shall be made at the end of the week? Sunday? Just to keep things moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I spend most of my time lugging coal around (Yorkshire joke), of coarse I keep to my self. When I'm not lifting coal I'm eating dripping sandwiches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digininja Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I went to the last DNSCon and as it turned out so did CyberEagle and someone else I know but we didn't know each other at the time. The event could have been good but at least one of the presenters didn't show so the talks were a bit up in the air. The other thing I found was the atmosphere was quite elitist and cold, the complete opposite of all the US cons I've been to or seen. The funniest thing for me was being accused of being a GCHQ spy. I think it may be because I had a yellow t-shirt on while everyone else was wearing black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digininja Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 This would be a cool alternative to the Toorcamp nuclear bunker if we ever went back to Germany: http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/05/st...hird-reich.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will-wtf Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 Rofl dijininja, were there black caps there also? =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlit Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 stingwray: I see what you mean about the start of the month thing, I'll amend my suggestion to "first weekend of july". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esqulax Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 All good in the hood for whenever with the Esqulax. Would be cool to hit up some 2600ers aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingwray Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Speak now or forever hold your peace for any objections to the first weekend of July! EDIT: Meant July, sorry, changed from June for reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digininja Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 The votes go for July. I've changed mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauBen Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I would say July (as it's my 30th in June I feel SO old :( ) I would be willing to go to either but has anyone considered Manchester?? Anyway, as soon as it is confirmed post all the details and the hotels we are looking at and I will see you all their! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 I would say July (as it's my 30th in June I feel SO old :( ) I would be willing to go to either but has anyone considered Manchester?? Anyway, as soon as it is confirmed post all the details and the hotels we are looking at and I will see you all their! I'm fairly unwilling to go any more north than Birmingham, other than that everything else is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingwray Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I think the July's have it! I meant July in my previous post, sorry about that, bit brain dead with all the revision that I'm doing at the moment, you can only make Systems Verification so interesting. Manchester's supposed to be nice (in places), but is there anything to do there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LauBen Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Well depends on what you want to do. They have the Science Museum which is cool, and LOADS of bars. Plus all the UMIST stuff. To me it does not matter too much, I will be happy to travel where ever. I just need to know, where and when :D Anyway, seeing as I am noobe with regards to these meets, what the plan? What do you guys and gals get up to normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlit Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Whatever comes up, really, sort of chat about stuff and get to know each other maybe over food and/or drink, mess about with some tech, go visit an attraction or two or attend an event of some sort perhaps (we were thinking about perhaps going to a local 2600 meeting or something) and just kinda see what people wanna do really. Granted, some events are planned better than others, last time we held a meet in London it was somewhat less planned but still fun all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digininja Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 I don't mind London or Manchester. Even though I live a lot closer to Manchester I've only ever been out in the shopping area so don't know what else is there to attract us. I think to get this down, and to make sure Metatron turns up, lets go for London. At least we know there are things to do there and there is the Hackerspace and an active 2600 group. I don't know when it meets but I know someone who does stuff with a Defcon group as well, I could have an ask about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 So from the above posts are we saying the first week of July in London? 03/07/09 to 05/07/09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlit Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 DC4420 usually meets on a Thursday which is a bit awkward if we're going for a weekend, though 2600 meets on the first Friday of each month. Edit: That weekend suits me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingwray Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 So from the above posts are we saying the first week of July in London? 03/07/09 to 05/07/09 Perfect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digininja Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 Lets book it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 Lets book it! I'll give it untill this Friday to make sure the date sticks and if it stands I'll book the Friday off and clear that weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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