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Some one recently asked a similar question, but i got a few different Q's.

1. Are systems admin and network admin same thing

2. What kind of collage course are required recommended

3. degrees +/>/< Certifications

4. How should i go about it

5. tips | advice | nsuch

plz elaborate. ;P

(p.s i have takes cisco1-4 any good advice on study material for the big exam ?)

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System Admin: File servers, Mail Exchanges, Hardware/Software issues.

Network Admin: DHCP,DNS,BIND,Webservers,etc

But there's no real standard,

You could be cleaning toilets and have the position of System admin.

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Sysadmin = Adminstrating Systems... PCs, software, hardware.

Netadmin = Administrating the network. Connections, ports, cables, servers etc.

In some cases, like the last college I worked at, you will required to be both.

Experience + Skill > Qualifications.

Everywhere uses different technology, so just gen-up on as much as you can - or whatever interests you. Then apply for jobs using that technology. Tbh if you start out as a junior, they'll train you up in the technology they use on site, as long as you're knowledgeable about the general ins-and-outs and of course enthusiastic.

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My advice to you is to get a job as a junior helpdesk person and get friendly with the sys-admins. By doing this I've gotten involved in some very challenging projects that has given, and will continue to give me the skills required to become one of the staff sysadmins in the future.

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Here at where I work there are three of us Sr guys.

I'm the Senior Network Security Coordinator, then the Senior Network Specialist and another Senior Network Specialist. However we all seem to have similar roles. One guy is more workstation support and frontend, and me and another guy do mostly the backend server stuff.

I don't have any certs or a university education. I'm 25 and have just been fortunate to have gotten where I have. It's by no means the rule, more the exception.

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I'll take the flip-side to this. I have the education and experience, and the education, while valuable in some respects, didn't do any good to land me my job. I'm sure it helped some in previous jobs, but not as much as the Uni's would have you believe.

Btw, our group consists of 3 server admins, and 2 network admins. Server guys handle anything server-side, apps, exchange, logon security, while the net admins are in charge of connectivity, provisioning, routing, and hardware security. Basically, anything that isn't, or doesn't reside on, a server is the net admin's role.

I would still recommend certifications as they do help in a lot of respects. CCNA, MCSE, A+, whatever you can get your hands on and learn will be helpful as long as you learn the info, and don't just grab the cliff notes.

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I've noticed a lot of sys admin jobs have been getting shipped over sees, I'd suggest getting something in a data center. They haven't found a way to have an indian replace a drive, swap cables or hardboot a server...yet. Entry level is always a good place to start though it seems they still want some sort of experience/education. Network admin usually require your CCNA, Unix admin positions will pretty much ask you what you are familiar with and in my experience, get paid a bit more than window admins, and window admins get asked for a MCSE, though you can usually just BS your way into a JR position as a win admin.

I myself am a Recovery specialist which pretty much means I know how to use netbackup and TSM which is enterprise backup and recovery software, as well as manage the hardware that goes along with it. (my job is also outsourceable)

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Out of interest, any of you touch on MS System Center Operations Manager 2007? Damn nice bit of software I'm implementing atm, but complex, especially when it comes to the architecture.

I've played around with 2005 and got it setup on a single server. It is kinda cool, but a pain to get the results you want. Still like drinking from a firehouse. I read a book on it when I was first setting it up. That database gets big quick. The thing I didn't like was, the process of creating your own custom alerts is not very intuitive.

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