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oh well...

I had my first post write before I new the how the "live show" was going to turn out be a moderated IRC 'post you opinion'. So now that I know the issues brought up here http://slexy.org/view/s2a9Q1AScj will be replied by the Hak5 cast/crew and post in a public manner I request that the issues discussed here be merged into the reply. Doing so will give a unified official cast /crew reply to nearly all the community issues in a consolidated single location.

@Hak5 How long is your partnership with Revision3? Will they review your performance then determine if they want to keep you? Do you have plans in place for operating with out Revision3? Now that Hak5 is in a partnership with Revision3 you will shoot two ~30min shows once a weekend resulting in four release shows a month. Previously Hak5 did one release a month. I know Revision3 is handling the downloads, ads etc. but I don't understand how that helps you be able to make three more shows a month. How are you able to research, learn , shoot and edit so much more now than previously? Revision3 has a forum setup for the show so there are two forums and one wiki and two different communities (rev3 ppl and hak5 ppl as of now). Also I have not seen any official links on the Revision3 site to hak5.org, thus I see a high potential for forking. Where will the show notes be? There is a mini shows notes tab on the flash player page on the Revision3 site. On the Hak5 site there are wiki show notes that _can be_ more descriptive and detailed than the mini show notes. Centralizing the show notes seems logical. There are two forum posts for the new episode: http://revision3.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22397 and http://hak5.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9737. So there is a fork right there, same subject matter in two different places, different replies, and different communities. I see this as potential for causing hassle. If I want to talk about the show what forum to I use? I am registered with both.

LOL!! it was a typo! :D I thought "provide" but typed "proved". I find it sadly amusing that nearly no one bothered to mention the main point of my post, my thought of the Revision3 Hak5 partnership.

.:Shout Outs:. I know some of these people will not see these comments. I hope they do because it is expressing my feelings and gratitude for their contributions to the show. Darren If you could pass them on to respective recipient I would be thankful (seriously they deserve credit, appreciation and thanks. Confirmation of it being sent would be nice.). Think I got every one. @ Harrison Holland I really like the segments you did. It added to the “under ground feel”. I would like to see you do more segments in Hak5 or some other IPTV show. I thought you were in sploitcast, but isn't that podcast dead? @ Jonathan Goldsboro DUDE that RSS alarm clock was awesome! I enjoyed how you brought code to the show. Sadly I don't think there has ever been code on the show since then. I would like to see you do more segments on Hak5 or other interment media. @ Wess Tobler I like some of your mods/hardware segments. I had the feeling that you really didn't know what you were doing half the time, but I see you have gotten better. You inspired me spay paint my keyboard and I even swapped out the green LED's for bright blue ones. Also your MEME arcade cab segments was a help and another inspiration for a father son bonding project of building our own cab. I think one of your best segments was the solar robotics mouse. It was well shot, good content and showed your good nature for the community and modding. I am sad to see you leave. I know from talking to you in IRC that your job is very life consuming. As for other reasons of leaving I do not know if there actually are but I believe I can understand. I hope to see you in a segment here or there on Hak5 and look forward to seeing you in any solo project than you do. @ Alli Buehring It was nice to have you around. I know you didn't contribute much to the show but it help the flow and made it more rounded. Good luck with your life. @ Rob Fuller Thou art elite and thous has proof. You had good segments back in the day and I am looking forward to seeing you in S04. @ Jenn Cutter Glad to see you could make it down to Virgina to do some segments and show up on the DVD. Good luck with life and Open Alpha. @ Ashley Witt Thanks for making the original Theme music. It was good, fresh upbeat for a show like Hak5. I enjoyed talking to you in IRC and learning about your life. It would be nice if you could stop by some time. @ Pronobozo Thanks for the music too. I don't see you much in IRC. @ Paul Tobias I see you as the technical back end of the show, running all the cables, mics, cameras, switching and so forth. You are a true keystone of the show. Thank you for your contributions in that light. You had some good detailed content segments. Hopefully you will continue with them. @ Matt Lestock and Chris Gerling Well thanks for working on the show. You guys showed up in S03 and the live shows which was the time where I dropped out from paying much attention to the shows even though I watch most of them. I don't know how you guys actually came into Hak5, but uh... keep it up. Chris I would like to see some crypto and networking segments pulling from your Navy experience. @ Shannon Morse I hope that you are not a token female and not there to fill in for missing Alli, :-/ . By that I wish you proved some thing to the show. .... err .... yeah, welcome aboard. @ Other female, if applicable see above .:My Histroy with Hak5:. I have been watching Hak5 since about S01x05 or so. Coming from The Broken and Systm to Hak5 was amazing. I was truly blow away by the content and feel of the show. I was very eager to come home from school on the fifth of every month to watch the show. I would turn on my computer, put VLC into full screen and crawl into bed and watch the goodness. Season one was rocking awesome goodness. The whole cast put together a great season. I really liked Harrison and Jonathan, what they brought to the show and I miss them dearly. The code and on site shoots were the best in my option. The skits were nice. They were really funny and “added to the under ground feel”, however the show needs tech and other content can come later so, as I do miss them, I don't see skits as a necessity for the show. Season two was good too, a little hit and miss. I liked the shmoocon and synergy episode. I wasn't too sure about this Paul guy. I mean where did he come from and why is he here? The look changed but the content was still fairly good. The show now had an official set and not the scrubby low budget set but thats cool. In between season two and three was when I got really into the IRC community. I kept seeing the mad props about IRC so I finally decided to getting to it, although I think I was in IRC some time before then. For an anecdote, because of Hak5 IRC I was introduced to the concept of tech help in IRC and now I am daily on IRC in various freenode channels. This was when live shows were being test, running straight from their home! I even did a skype call in. I remember watching them test the setcam/housecam when they were still in their apartment. I really felt a part of the community being in IRC and literally watching and talking the crew, seeing them move in to their house. The show was evolving before my eyes. Season three is when I tuned out from IPTV in general. I did watch the shows and other IPTV shows out there but my dedication and anticipation for new episodes of Hak5 died. A lot of the shows content is not applicable to me, past and current. I lack most of the hardware and networking knowledge, however I finally got wifi two months ago. The audio and video quality became much better, which makes seeing things in better detail. I was unsure about the new faces, Matt and Chris. Part of me thought they were spoused to be a Harrison and Jonathan replacement. I still don't know where they came from. .:My Thoughts:. Nearly all independent tech IPTV shows have died or stopped. Examples of such shows include StepOne, From The Shadows, Packet Sniffer, Hack TV/Bin-Rev TV, Techcenteric, Hackcom, Poor Boys, Digital Underground. The only independent tech IPTV shows that have withstood the test of time and continue are BSOD and Hak5. It is truly profound that Hak5 has been going on for over three years and has achieved so much through hard painful work and sacrifice. To that I thank all the crew, past and present, that have contributed to the show. I know the community has done its fair share in helping Hak5 develop and grow. The wiki was edited substantially by viewers. Ashley Witt also made some significant contributions to it. Getting the layout to look right on different browsers was a nightmare. Who did the current site and how it got to the point it is today I do not know whether it was community or Hak5 cast. I know the IRC channel (#hak5) has been run basically by the community. I don't know how the forums have been run, but I' m guessing that it is nearly all community maintained. I have vague memories of a R&D group and I don't know what happened to it. That being said here comes the Revision3 stuff. I don't understand how this "partnership" is working. In fact Hak5, what is the best way to call the relation between Revision3 and yourself? I will refer to it as a partnership. AFAIK Hak5 stays Hak5, no censorship, rev3 doesn't say what to cover, Darren does the editing then ships it off to rev3, rev3 does all the encoding, rev3 handles the download hosting, rev3 manages the advertisement. Correct? Is there anything else to be added? I am suppressed that nobody has mentioned the _MONEY_ in this situation. Revision3 is a for profit company. They make money off of ads in the shows which fully supports the company. To my knowledge, Hak5 has never been able to brake even with the ads in their shows and the viewer donations. So who is getting the financial benefit from the partnership? Hak5 used have Dream Host and Go Daddy ads, now they have supplied Revision3 ads. Is Hak5 still get same amount of money for ads or Is Hak5 getting more income now because they are with Revision3? How is the monetization working? Is it based on the number of downloads? Moving Hak5 to Revision3 is going to bring a whole lot more viewers, more downloads and more money. But who is getting the better deal? I doubt the deal is 50/50. As I said above the community help keep hak5 going but now Revision3 will be making profit off of the labor of the community, to some extent. Hak5 has said they are moving to HD but is Revision3 giving Hak5 HD equipment let alone any equipment? I don't think they are but why would they not? I thought all Revision3 shows were in HD, certify viewers want to see HD. Is it not in Revision3's best interest to have high quality audio/visual content on their network? Are the old shows, live shows and skits going to be hosted on Revision3? As with other shows that have moved onto Revision3 I doubt they will be. The visually quality is not up to par with the other Revision3 shows, but will they still link to them? So what is Hak5 getting out of this? They don't have to pay for download hosting and they will be getting more viewers. Hak5 will be saving money and earning more money. Is Hak5 going to break even now and use the "profit" money to buy their HD equipment. Eventually will Hak5 be raking in the money so much that it will be going to their personal lives to be spent on non Hak5/Revision3 things? Then the show becomes a job not a hobby, which would lead to better content one would hope. [tad extream here ] If you guys will be or are now raking it in are you going to write checks to the past cast members? Hey what about the major community members who have helped? What do both deserve? They helped build the foundation of Hak5 which lead to the partnership with Revision3. Yes, I know throwing money at people who freely volunteer is not practical nor necessarily sane but a thank you and a gold star sticker really cannot fully encompass the gratitude they both rightfully deserve. Looking at this move on the surface level it is a great change; same content if not better and high quality video and audio. Deep down is this ethical and good for the original community and former cast members? I don't know all the hidden truths if there are any nor do I believe any none Hak5 crew members knows. Where can I find the Red Pill...

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