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  1. The short answer is that is depends on the phone and the settings of that device. For a longer answer read on. With some devices they will always ask you about an unsecure connection if the settings are configured to ask. The fact that a device is not automatically connecting to a pineapple could be for a myriad of reasons. For instance, if the phone has never seen any of the access points the pineapple is offering, then the phone will likely not connect automatically. One advantage with using the Nano is that PineAP can persuade wireless devices to give up the SSIDs that device is searching for but there are times when even this can be problematic. In the case of an iOS device, many will not connect if they go into sleep mode even if they are broadcasting wireless packets. Once someone wakes the phone, it will then connect but only if it's seen the broadcasted SSID before and only if the device's settings are configured to allow the automatic connection. If a device is already connected to an AP, then you have to fight the other AP for the device's attention. Sometimes you lose that battle. Because there are so many different wireless devices all with different settings, its hard to say the what your particular issue is. Only by reviewing your devices settings and knowing how it operates when associated and unassociated to an access point will you gain full understanding into the matter. This may sound elementary and you may have already tried this but, I would suggest this course of action: 1. Associate your devices to your company's AP 2. Ensure that your company's AP is in PineAP's SSID list 3. Get far away from your place of employment (and preferably anyone else) bringing your devices and the pineapple. 4. Turn on the pineapple running PineAP fully weaponized and power on all your devices to see if they connect automatically or if they ask for user input. It might even be a good idea to turn on all your devices first, allow the screens to go idle (dark), and then power on the pineapple. This way you will know if you can get them to connect even if they are "sleeping". I have hooked devices that usually beat me 90% of the time and have struggled to connect instruments that should have been trivial. Your mileage may very.
  2. Sweet! Excited about the next update. Thanks again.
  3. Seb, You might already know about this, but after some further experiments, it seems there is a more nuanced issue. When the recon scan is set to 'AP & Client', it will only show results if an AP is nearby. If an AP is not detected, then any results of unassociated clients are not reported. Since I am in an stark WiFi environment, I powered up two client devices and just allowed them to probe. When a recon scan was executed looking for AP & Clients over a 5 minute window, no results were returned. Next, I plugged in an AP an re-ran the scan over a 5 minute period. The scan reported the AP and the two unassociated clients. I've repeated this experiment several times and get the same results each time. Firmware 1.0.5 does not have the same issue. Just wanted to make you aware if it wasn't something already being examined. Thanks again for all your hard work!
  4. Skinny

    Extending wifi

    I use this in my home and for my classes: http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA901ND-Wireless-300Mbps-Repeater/dp/B002YETVXC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1460740863&sr=8-5&keywords=tplink+wireless+bridge For a wireless bridge, it gets the job done pretty well.
  5. Range and power has a bit to do with it. I don't know if this is your problem, but make sure your phone is seeing the Pineapple as the stronger of the two APs. If it is not, phone will go right back to the original access point. Given two APs with the same SSID, most devices will go for the stronger of the two.
  6. Cool case! Have you noticed any heat issues and how long have you run it continuously in that case?
  7. Thanks Seb! I wanted to make sure I wasn't screwing something up and getting crazy results.
  8. Hi Guys, I was just playing around with two different Nanos and noticed something odd. Recon mode has two separate responses if it cannot find WiFi in an area. With both units I separately attached each with a Y-adapter cable to a laptop running Ubuntu. The only difference is that one had the 1.0.5 firmware and the second had 1.0.6 firmware. When the 1.0.5 firmware unit completes a recon scan, it operates as one would expect. After the progress bar has reached 100% or is finished, the screen returns "No scan results" and the Scan Settings return to normal. When the 1.0.6 firmware unit's recon scan runs and there is nothing in the area to find, it tends to hang at 100% indefinitely. If there is a WiFi signal in the area it operates just as the 1.0.5 firmware does. As a matter of setup, both Nanos were given a reset so that modules and other screw-ups I might have caused would not manipulate the results. So I'm curious if anyone else out there can reproduce my results. I know for a few of you finding a place with no WiFi might be difficult but I'm curious if this is a thing or if something else is causing the difference between both of these units. Thanks! Skinny
  9. Miracle of miracles, something fixed itself. Recon is working again. From the time of my last post, here is everything I did. I don't know what fixed it. 1. After a factory reset, I restarted the nano and recon was still not working. It would hang at 100%. I tried directly connected with a laptop and through wireless management. 2. I took the Nano apart to smell and see if any component had fried. Everything looked good. (As a side note the board says "MKV nono Rev8") 3. I booted the board without the case and without the memory card. Recon still did not work through the wireless management. Shut the Nano down and left it for several hours. 4. Replaced the memory card and rebooted this time with my android phone tethered to the Nano. 5. Checked for a firmware upgrade (there wasn't one). 6. Noticed that when I selected Modules from the menu, none of my modules were present. I clicked manage modules. They were all listed. Went to the dashboard. Looked at the menu again and then all my modules appeared under the Modules heading. 7. Ran Recon and everything worked. I have tried to think about the last action I took before Recon stopped working. I think I had just tried to install the dependencies for the tcpdump module. After I installed them, I got an error when I tried to turn tcpdump on. It was late so I left it alone. I have no idea if this would affect Recon. If anyone else is still having this problem, I'd love to hear how you got it in that state and if you found a solution. Good luck!
  10. It looks as though my Nano just lapsed into the very same condition. Just today recon will start, register 100%, and then freeze indefinitely. I've reset the Nano to factory default to no avail. When I get home I will try to reload the firmware. Also, I took some current measurements in different states before it started behaving in this manner. I'll check those numbers vs what it draws now to see if it's potentially a hardware issue. Judging from past posts this seems to be a reoccurring problem. If I see a solution or a cause, I'll report back.
  11. Skinny

    Extending wifi

    Hi mdbill, What you want to do is possible but it will take an investment. Ubiquiti is a company that makes some pretty good gear when it comes to these types of applications. I once was able to extend a network connection through 1/2 a mile of thick forest. I used their AirMax product line. If I remember correctly, we purchased a radio for each end and a directional antenna for each. That was several years ago and they appear to have even better stuff now. https://www.ubnt.com/products/ Assuming that you do the research or hire someone to put together a solution for you, you'll have two challenges using this equipment. The first is elevation. If there is any roll in the earth between your house and office, you'll need to elevate your directional antennas on both sides. Putting it on the roof of both places might be enough but it will depend on the geography over the five miles. The second challenge will be those trees. You'll need to get out a compass or something similar and make sure you have both antennas pointing towards each other without the luxury of having eyes on target. Also, if the forest is thick and wide enough, it could easily kill your signal. If you decide to go this route, by sure to keep your receipt and make sure the distributor has a decent return policy.
  12. The reason I was asking so many power related questions is because if the Tetra doesn't get enough power it will freeze or reboot under certain conditions. I was thinking the Nano might exhibit the same behavior. With the USB charger you are using, you have over 10W to work with. When I have my Android phone tethered to the Nano while running PineAP and Recon mode, I'm only starting to approach 5W. In order for power to be your problem, that USB range extender would have to have a usb hub at the end with multiple devices attached. It also looks like a lot of your power is coming from wall plugs. That's all I could think of but it looks like that's not your problem. Good luck!
  13. RenderMan, I was curious about your Aruba system. When does the system step in to disassociate the client? Does it only perform this action when the pineapple is trying to be part of the Aruba network or will it try to disassociate any cleint/AP relationship within range of the sensor? Thanks!
  14. Couple of follow up questions. How are you powering the 2.3 watt amplifier and what do you mean by usb range extender? I'm asking all this to see if there is a way I can reproduce the problem with stuff I have here.
  15. How are you powering the Nano and what all do you have connected to it?
  16. I keep different versions of the file depending on the use case. Many times I'm looking to grab unassociated clients in a particular area. For that purpose I have a file of just the top 100, public, free wifi points in the area. Throughout a week of capturing clients, the Nano will pick up more SSIDs during the course of doing business. At the end of the week the top 100 file gets reloaded to the /etc/pineapple/. I've found that once you reach a ridiculous number of SSIDs, it takes a longer time to capture a device if you get it to associate at all. Having a targeted list along with watching for SSIDs being beaconed by the client seems to work pretty well. Within the /etc/pineapple/ directory make yourself some copies of ssid_file. In my case it may look like this: cp ssid_file myTop100ssids cp ssid_file topssidsinKentucky cp ssid_file topssidsinCleveland Next, edit each one of these copies to your specifications. I use nano. nano myTop100ssids After editing press [Ctrl o] to save and [Ctrl x] to exit. To load up a file type for use. cp myTop100ssids ssid_file This will copy myTop100ssids and rename it ssid_file for use by the pineapple. Forgive me if this is something you were already aware of how to do but I thought it might help based on the question. Have a great day!
  17. So am I safe to assume the wlan1mon goes active when whenever recon and PineAP is activated and then remains on after either module is finished or deactivated?
  18. I just tried what you suggested using an Apple iPod as the client. As a matter of setup, I was tethered to the Nano using an android phone and powering it all with an external battery back providing a max of 2.1Amps. The client associated with the Nano. There was no hostname, but it was assigned an IP. After running Recon mode for 30 seconds with PineAP continuing to run as well, the client was still connected with it's original IP address. Just to be thorough, I re-scanned for 1 minute. Everything is still working as expected.
  19. Seb, Just so you are aware, the red LED comes on whenever you start recon mode or activate PineAP, but once Recon has finished or if you deactivate PineAP, the light continues to blink until the power in completely killed. I'm not sure what the intent was but that's the behavior I've noticed. Just thought I'd let you know in since you were looking into it anyway.
  20. I just bought this beast: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B016DA61V2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It's a little pricey but it has a max output of over 4.8A. It amounts to a 24W output. Great thing is it maintains Tetra stability by itself with no additional batteries needed. Also, if your Tetra didn't come with an ac adapter, there is a good one here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DKSI0S8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It has a 3A output at 12V, so it's good for 36W and it's cheap ($9). I'm also looking at another alternative that I think will be more helpful, but I'm still hashing it out.
  21. This is mostly possible with the Ubertooth. Right now I have a setup that I use to help with Bluetooth sniffing. The rig is put together with the express purpose of tracking bluetooth devices. Here is a picture: https://twitter.com/SkinnyRaD/status/707655156108668928 The Pi is running Raspbian. I'm running ubertooth-rx and shaping the output to pick out the information I want like the identifier (LAP) and the signal strength.
  22. Thanks for the responses. Finally getting back to this after the holidays. Usually what will happen is I will actually see the phones sending out a broadcast, so I know the they are not turning off wifi. I know when a phone is in the area and I even know its MAC address. From time to time the pineapple will work, but it is not often. I'd say I can grab an unassociated client 20% of the time. When I do get the phone to associate, I can locate the phone quickly, otherwise I have to wait around for another broadcast packet and very slowly close in on it. One thing to note is that almost every phone I've found has been in an idle state. Most people don't realize they have brought the device in with them. I'm starting to suspect that some devices will send a broadcast packet but will not respond when the device is in an idle state (ie Turned on but not direct use). I do not know if this assumption is true. However, I'm still curious if there is some way to craft a transmission to these idle devices and forces them to talk back. Even if the response is "Shut up and go away. I'm not talking to you," that would completely change the game for me. I have no desire for the devices to associate in the first place, I just need to get them to be chatty.
  23. Hi All, I have a question regarding the pineapple but a bit of background would probably be helpful. On a daily basis my job is to hunt down and remove unauthorized WiFi devices people accidentally bring into a very large building. My management has decided they don't want any outside WiFi devices and have put money into technical solutions. I have an enterprise solution that can put me to within 20 meters of the target device. This system will provide me with the MAC address of the offending WiFi device. Once I am in the area, I have a WiFi sniffer that will give me a MAC address readout with it's associated RSSI. Before the pineapple I would wait for the device to broadcast every 30 seconds to 20 minutes depending the device's broadcast frequency. Tracking could take hours. The pineapple really changed the game. When the device connects to the pineapple the hunting time drops fantastically. In the best of scenarios the WiFi device pushes out a steady stream of RF breadcrumbs to the pineapple that allow me to track it down. Here's the problem. There are many devices I've come across that the pineapple cannot ensnare. At last check my pineapple is blasting about 400 different SSIDs to attract attention but the fish aren't biting. Anyway, here's my question. Is there anything I can do to get these devices (mostly phones) to just respond. I have the MAC address. I know I am within range. Is there anything I can do, pineapple or not, to just get these devices to just chirp. I'm not at all interested in connecting. I just need a steady, repeatable response to assist with tracking. I know this may be a bit of an odd application but any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any help you can provide. Skinny
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