oh btw karma WILL Function if you have the password to the wifi btw. I have been to many hospitals where they give out the password to their wifi and have use karma on a protected wifi point(all u need to do is change your wifi protected password to their's. It's basic logic, all karma does is intercept the devices probes and redirects it to the mark 5(You can also block anyone who tries to connect to their wifi if you have the wrong password, which is good if u want to be an asshole to your friends). also quoting the other person above me, looks like this is true and provides a even more security flaw. Another reason to remove this second open one is that it will flood the airwaves(very settle, but in places with many wifi connections around this could serve an issue) with, NO REAL PURPOSE. All I want is the option to disable the second one and if i need it again an option to re-enable it from within the web interface.(i think that is the better option)