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DeGrijze

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  1. There is no reason why Jordi couldn't post his comment as long as he signed up for a Hak5 forum account.

    Well just maybe he do not want to get associated with hak.5

    Jasager is a very powerful tool for security auditors and as Digip has pointed out, without innovations like these we'll never have a safer network.

    Darren you know just like I do thats a lot of crap.

    We are in fact NOT a "group known for promoting illegal behaviors among hackers". I take offense to that.

    MMmm in all of the first hak.5 episodes of this season (not on the last one episode) the intro is telling other wise.

    This will be my last response to this topic for this time (just and only out of respect for Vako).

    Gerard

  2. Just to inform, all do it have taken some time for a reaction from Fonera they steaded the following in a email.

    Thanks for letting me know. That era is over, Nicolas left the company a while ago. This kind of misunderstanding should not happen anymore. We are of course always willing to help the communities, but not this kind of black hat hackers. Let me repeat this: we do not support these pirates with bad intentions.

    Cheers,

    Anthony

    And this is the following statement from Fonera

    I see that there are still many people receiving confusing emails about hack5 and their illegal hacking activities with Foneras and other devices. I just wanted to let you know that I went to the forum a few weeks ago when the thing was hot and posted the official version of what FON is against and in favor of but never got it published, I donĀ“t know the reason why because it was not offensive at all, here the text:

    "This is Jordi Vallejo, CTO at FON. We support several Open Source

    Communities like OpenWRT and many others but we are totally against

    software developed to gain information or credentials from third

    parties. We are also totally against softwares to create "man in the

    middle" type of attacks not only on routers, but also on PCs or any

    other hardware with network interface. The actual software used for

    "man in the middle" attacks can be run into any hardware with network

    support and that includes notebooks, routers, mobile devices with

    wifi, ethernet switches, etc... Again we are against the use of this

    type of softwares no matter in which hardware are they run on, ours or third parties. We

    still support Open Source Communities because they have created some

    of the most stable and high performance software solutions used today

    by both individuals and corporations. Also support O.S. just because many of the FON employees we have

    been involved on several of those initiatives with great passion and enthusiasm.

    Jordi - FON"

    The email showed on the forum by a FON employee is talking about hacking on mesh and lets not forget that hacking is not bad by nature, we are talking about hacking not cracking. We all know that some of the best hackers are working in Oracle, Red Hat, Microsoft, you name it. But what I have to agree with is that it was not the smartest thing in the world to send a bunch of Foneras and Fontennas to a group known for promoting illegal behaviors among hackers. I hope is a bit more clear now on where we stand on this issue.

    Regards,

    Jordi

    So Fonera made it clear they do not support this segment of hak.5

    Let that be note it.

    Gerard

  3. Beside my network security job, my wife and i are also foster parents and working in and for and with in the sytem.

    For both jobs (the network security, and the childwellcare) i need to make use of my social engineering skills.

    In my network security job to get hold of some info from and over the network setup and so on and as a childwellcare worker to get the parents (or the child) to speak up or trick them to tell the truth.

    So my hole working live is based on my social engineering skills.

    Gerard

  4. @ Darran,

    Its noting against you peronaly.

    And like i mentioned befour its out of my hands in the hands of the law now.

    I brook my word to VaKo just and only to give you (Darran) a reply.

    And ones again out of respect for VaKo i will not response any more in this topic.

    Best of luck

    Gerard

  5. Iam useing my Asus EeePc 701 4G (thats the one with the small screen) everyday in my job (Network Security Advisor).

    And really happy with it (all do i made a view changes to serf my needs just i bit better), the little screen is no problem for me because most of the time iam not running any X.

    Yea i really like those mini notebooks way out better to work with than the big one.

    Gerard

  6. So, what's the basis of your claim exactly? :D

    Pointed them out to the Wi-Fi Pineapples segment in where Darran clearly steaded he owns the Wifi network of the coffeeshop and the fact of promoting of how to setting up a honeypot crack your self.

    And beside all of that a full copy of this forum tread.

    Gerard

  7. Watch - something else mate - this is a hacking program - even if you are white hat you need to be aware of what is possible !!!!! Oh and of you never heard of dramatic licence with regard to Darren pwning at the coffee shop. Really- typical liberal POV , oh you can't do that its not what its meant for!!!Grow up.

    First of i am all grow up.

    Second by the new laws (afther the 911) Darran just shrewed him self.

    Gerard

  8. If you watch the footage again, you will see that Hak5 never used the Fon as a malicious tool. Hence there is no grounds for a law suit.

    Darran steaded quite clearly is is sitting in front of its fav: coffeeshop "OWNING" the wireless network of that coffeeshop.

    And he is showing the the Fon routera a malicious tool.

    With that Darran is just incrementing him self

    Gerard

  9. Why? what makes you say that?

    The point is that as far i know now someone from the FON community gave the FON routers to Darran for promotion (give away prices) and not for showing how to turn a fon router in to a Cracker hardware.

    (its not like Matt steaded that the paid for the Fon routers and the Fonntenna's)

    And FON nor the FON COMMUNITY is wanting for this kind of cracker publicity.

    Gerard

    (I smel a lawsuit coming)

  10. @ SmoothCriminal

    The point is that FON is a community network and like any community network it stands or falls with the use of its community members.

    Any one that gets a (cheap) Fon router is suppose to share its internet connection with the other Fon users/owners.

    Bud when you are just getting a FON router because its cheap and its nice that you can use the internet connection of the Fon users/owners that are sharing there internet connection with out sharing it your self.

    Thats wrong.

    And the FON community is not happy with those people because there are the back stepping group that give the FON community a bad name and will get the Community to fall down instead of letting it grow.

    The point is if your not willing or able to share your internet connection with other FON users/owners you shut not get your self a Fon router.

    Gerard

    (by the way i contacted the FON head office and they will get back to me)

  11. DeGrijze, feel free to contact whoever you like, all I know is that someone from Fon sent us 20 routers and 4 fontennas.

    I will don't you worry.

    If I'm going to pay for something, and then in turn I own it, I can then do what I like with it. plain and simple.

    Like i mentioned not according to Fon.

    Matt like they say down under, Pull my other leg it plays jingel bells

    Telling that the Fon org: is supporting the Hak5 team to hack or use their device for anything other than it's attended purpose is BS

    And you telling it so, just makes you full of it.

    Sorry dude you just lost all the respect i got for you as a member of the hak5 team.

    Gerard

  12. DeGrijze,

    While I understand the methodology behind the Fon, you're still paying for the device.

    At that point I feel I can do what I like with it.

    We don't have the infrastructure here to offer free internet.

    Well Matt, thats not quite so, because if your not able to support the "Fon Rules" you shoot not get a Fon router.....

    At the same time, there are a large number of people that actually work for La Fonera that support what we're doing with it, and encourage people to find all kinds of different uses for their devices, internet sharing or not, and in turn they sent us a fairly large shipment of devices so that we can do all kinds of things with them.

    Well i got good contacts with in the Fonera home office and community, so i will check this with Nicolas and Florian add the Fonera home office.

    So i really hope that what you are telling is true if not so i will burn you with it add the stake.

    Gerard

  13. Or you can google for it,

    Its not that a big of a secret.

    Personaly i just like to see that people just use the Fon routers for what there mend for and thats charing your internet connection, and if you are not content with the Fon router or rules just give your fon Router to someone thats willing to share its internet connection and will accept the fon rules.

    Gerard

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