Basicly I am a compuer tech, one of the most common things I do is clean off spyware, viruses, adware .... anyware, I've come accross acouple that I can compleatly remove... except for the fact that they stay active in the memory, a BSOD can fix this becuase it will cause a full memory dump, if I just clean everything and tryshutting down it creates a new root file that this virus/downloader can respawn itself from. So, if I can figure out how to force a BSOD it will get rid of the last trace. By the way, the example I just used was solved by a format and reinstall. And no, system recovery was disabled.