The Sorrow

Ok so I refined the list. Just throwin it up there. Case COOLER MASTER HAF X Mother Board ASUS Rampage III Formula Graphics Card (x2) GeForce GTX 570 i7 CPU Intel Core i7-960 Bloomfield 3.2GHz RAM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 24GB (6 x 4GB) Hard Drive Western Digital RE4 WD2003FYYS 2TB Optical Drives (Cause i only have ROMs -.-) Blu-Ray Player DVD/CD/Litescribe RW Drive

+1 to this.... all the coupons i know of pop up and print out.... what coupon "program" is this?

I was actually looking at the Rampage 3 Extreme. Its about what im looking for.

one way they could have won is the fact that they never gave him permission to access the network. Now going back to your scenario. If i recall correctly, every year at the beginning of the year you and your parents are required to sign a paper saying you will not use the computers for any purpose outside of assigned classwork and educational uses. Now i know what popped into your head the instant i said that. "Im learning by checkin this stuff out" That may be true. But to them it is going against the grain and looking for trouble. Kind of like a cat poking its paw into a garbage disposal. Bottom line -> Download VMWare Player, tinker, make networks, break, fix and break again. Thats how we learn.

hm. ill give it a try. thanks my man

nice tool... will it work on 2008 R2 though?

Personal preference... I really have no logical reason

Computer and network stuff is gravy. That's not so much an issue. Any security admin or acting security admin (ie the only admin in the building) is paid to be paranoid. they assume the worst.

So im moving a bunch of server shares from our one print server (2003 x86) to each individual locations local server (2008 R2 x64). anyone have any ideas or scripts they can throw my way to make this easier?

see thing is. i dont mind the looks of that board. it looks good to me. i just dont wanna have to buy 4x8GB kits...

hmmm. well then what would you suggest for me. all i feel i need are i7 capability with x2 SLI ready board. 24 GB of ram capable. thats all im really looking for in a MB.

im bad with processor/MB combinations. i see a matching socket and think *click* I may also buy a 580 like you suggested. then SLI when i get my bonus

I was meaning your child as in his social security number, grades, files etc. In short, it takes a lot of clearance to do what we do and few people are willing to risk giving an adolescent access to said information. There was a lot of stuff i wasn't allowed to se even in the position i got.

In my case they were ok with me poking around because that became my job. In your scenario however, it is not. Being in a situation where i have access and superior knowledge than the average user, they make every legal provision they can to assure i wont do harm. Its known as security for the institution hiring me. Would you want someone accessing your child's sensitive information? I think not. Just like at bank's IT department. Everyone goes through a background check, drug test and other tests to assure they will not do anything malicious. Its all about what can and will happen, not what ifs. In any situation coming from a network security standpoint you expect and prepare for the worst. The best way to prevent other children from hacking or damaging networks and accessing private files is to make an example of someone who DOES do such things. My junior year some smart alecs figured they'd make admin accounts on the domain. I caught this and they were carried off the grounds in handcuffs and ankle shackles. They were expelled, and when they returned to school the following year they were not allowed to work on any computer let alone be near one. And asking an adolescent that knows mostly how to break things to find holes is like encouraging a drug cartel to rob your store. You just don't do it. EDIT ------------- Infiltrators example is flawless. Prevention is better than recovery.

You sound very much like me Infiltrator. I got warned for similar issues at my middle school, went to high school, transfered to another school sophmore year. I saw their network was... sad at best. So i asked the head tech if i could be an admin. We got talking and he liked the idea. (Oregon is very under-funded). They cleared it and the rest has either been stated or is history.

I was a student with written permission of the school board to act as a Junior Network Technician\Admin. I was screened by the IT Director and signed a contract stating i would do no harm to the integrity of the network upon expulsion and full punishment of the law. Your dealing with private information and very sensitive data. They're gonna be very picky about it. I learned for the most part on my own systems. VMWare player is free after all. Looking at a car is the incorrect example. Think of the network as, well, a hotel. You can walk around the building halls all you want. As soon as you find an open door however, if you enter its trespassing. Same thing as traversing the network. As soon as you access another machines files your guilty. Especially as a student that may get to a teachers machine even by accident. If i accidentally walk onto someones land they have full right to sue (or shoot where im from) because of trespassing.

I understand entirely. Thats how i landed a tech position as a student sophomore through senior year. However, unless you express your interest to the school principle or whoever you need to go through in order to attain that position. And if you dont have that position, its not your job to address the network security issues. School is a place to learn, with full guidance and permission of your teachers.

1. The student/admin networks are probably separate domains 2. Don't go poking around your school's network. I graduated from school as a student technician and messing around on our network in any way was strictly forbidden and eligible for suspension/expulsion depending on what the kid thought he could "do" on the network. In summation, school is for school. Unless your school has a separate lab/network/subnet for a networking/computer studies class, stick to doing school stuff.

Ive been using hamachi for a bit and i like it. How secure and user friendly is OpenVPN

Here's the specs for my new PC build. Its gonna be a bit but i got time and patience. Plus I plan on upgrading my current PC then buying the MB/CPU then case etc etc etc. Case COOLER MASTER Storm Scout with 700W Power Supply Motherboard ASUS P6T WS PRO CPU Intel Core i7-960 GPU GeForce GTX 570 x2 (SLI) RAM Kit Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) Hard Drive Western Digital RE4 WD2003FYYS 2TB Other hard drive i have is a 1TB Western Digital. If its not listed I already have it. (ie. DVD drive) This PC is going to be my main workstation/gaming station. I do a lot of VMWare stuff (hence the huge amount of RAM and the upgradability of the MB). Only things I am digging for opinions on are the CPU choice and the GPU choice. All comments, questions, and reasonable harassment is invited.

Great. "In Soviet Russia, you hack us we nuke you" First thing that came to mind

one site: pricewatch.com

Pick 2 friend. Cause computers (like cars) are only as good as the money you put into them.

interesting. thanks for the info digi

So me and some friends wanna do some LAN gaming between southern Oregon and Las Vegas. I'm thinking VPN. any other inputs? Suggested applications would be useful as well. Thanks.