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this is in the live beta version....

I wouldn’t say it sucks, it’s just not the best pick for a server, but if your building a non MAME gaming box or CAD box, then Windows is the best. I love: Debian Gentoo Red Hat Enterprise Linux/ CentOS Windows VxWorks OpenBSD Solaris Each one is best suited to different tasks/ situation. Don't take me wrong man! I LOVE DEBIAN! if You ask me one OS, I would use: DEBIAN . However reading your opinion about Ubuntu... i though I should mention few thing. I've tried Ubuntu Server, tested it, tried to see it from every angle and one final word. It is ok! It works fine! it never failed. The desktop version of ubuntu is really blotted, however the server version looks great! I mean! what the heck! it does not even come with a GCC compiler by default. I've read that lots here recommended Centos. First of all, for me Centos = RPM and honestly no way jose. Centos exist because RedHat is releasing publicly its RPM. What happens when they stop doing that? Are you ready to run a production server based on something on which you don't have any assurance that it's gonna continue, are they're still gonna release patches?. Ubuntu however provides support for its server version for 5 years. For an enterprise, this is a good deal Ubuntu is a certified Oracle platform as well as IBM DB2... Big Diff between Ubuntu and Debian? well the main I would say is that someone is paying some of the debian developers to work on the project, while debian is just a volunteer work. Not sure for you, but for me, if I am paid to do a job, I do it! If I have to work on some other project when I get home, then I won't put much of time and of my life in it. That's maybe be, but maybe half of the dozen of people that work on debian. Final word on it? not sure they would continue... For some that loves to have their hands dirty because of compiling the kernel and just playing with things. Honestly, at home, there is no reason to install ubuntu, I've got time to play with Debian. At work, what the heck man! your boss tells you, I need a server up running tomorrow with 200 to 300 users registered on it and allowing some client software to use oracle on it?! You think you've got time to even compile a kernel?! If Debian is not detecting fully all the hardwares on the server, then an alternative is Ubuntu. Ubunt = debian with newer packages! if you need those new packages and need more driver support (better driver support) then go with Ubuntu.. coz it's just the same freaking system. Anyway... there is a lot to say! and really guys! all i am just trying to say is that: we all have our preferences but saying a distro suck just because it is a young distro (although same developpers use to work for debian).. that's a bit lame... The pride of "owning" a hard-core distro is not what is gonna make you profit. It's just a stupid good feeling of 5mn. When it comes to production! it's a completely different world.

why do you have to curse?! Because i'm 'cool'.... and was the drunk phrase of my drunkan night at my new years party :) So that's what makes you cool? geezz....

Linux from Scratch

why do you have to curse?!

Well... I use IPCOP and I think it's better than SmoothWall... I don't usually like when a company release a free and commercial product... because they tend to neglect the free one. I would say give IPCOP a try... however one great firewall distro to check out in the future is Pfsense based on M0m0wall, which includes pf of OpenBSD.

I want it fast! I want it quick! I want it now!... and the easy way! Just tell me how do I do that: How to learn C in 5mn?How to become a hacker in 1mn? How do I chmod a whole directory and sub-directory? ........... (and so on... :roll: ) It is funny to realize that as our society is getting faster and faster (everything has to be quick), people want to accomplish stuff without having to go through the hassle to learn. I remember, writing my first program in C, I started from writing "Hello world" and directly jumped on "how to implement tables and array"... I mean, what the heck! I want to write than #*%& GUI program that my 5 years Ingenier friend is doing. Well after a while, I had to go back to start reading from the beginning. I mean... so many times, have I lost time searching on google, when I could have just spent 1h from the beginning reading the whole manual, or just doing a simple "man xxxx". It's like that guy who wants built a php script which could read records from a database, just "googled" it, found a Tuto on how to do it, did it. It was fine. I mean great program from someone who does not know php at all?! :roll: What's wrong with this society? where is the balance between fast production and quality production?! :?

/me agrees. whatever...

what about starting to ban users?... like u for instance Deveant? Seriously how old are you? You blow my mind!! hehe i blow some ones mind kool ^_^. Umm what did i say wrong? and im 19 btw :P Funny, I am 22... you're fooling around when we're being serious on a matter!

age?

what about starting to ban users?... like u for instance Deveant? Seriously how old are you? You blow my mind!!

dydns?

i give you one euro for it :)

Ya.. i agree... however it reminds me of the time when once, I had a problem with my hosting company and when I actually was walking tech support into solving the problem... :roll:

what u working?

if the data are important then paying 60-80 box won't be a problem... if u decide to buy a software, go with SpinRite... it's the best!

You can always emulate Windows inside of linux and then run all your wireless stuff (which in recent distro are pretty much supported)... for games... if Wine does not work... ya just run them in the Windows emulation

Well create a file named Mail.pm and copy the following code in it package DateTime::Format::Mail; # $Id: Mail.pm 3459 2006-07-24 12:39:08Z autarch $ use strict; use 5.005; use Carp; use DateTime 0.1705; use Params::Validate qw( validate validate_pos SCALAR ); use vars qw( $VERSION ); $VERSION = '0.30'; my %validations = ( year_cutoff => { type => SCALAR, callbacks => { 'greater than or equal to zero, less than 100' => sub { defined $_[0] and $_[0] =~ /^ d+ $/x and $_[0] >= 0 and $_[0] < 100 }, }, } ); # Timezones for strict parser. my %timezones = qw( EDT -0400 EST -0500 CDT -0500 CST -0600 MDT -0600 MST -0700 PDT -0700 PST -0800 GMT +0000 UT +0000 ); my $tz_RE = join( '|', sort keys %timezones ); $tz_RE= qr/(?:$tz_RE)/; $timezones{UTC} = $timezones{UT}; # Strict parser regex # Lovely regex. Mostly a translation of the BNF in 2822. # XXX - need more thorough tests to ensure it's *strict*. my $strict_RE = qr{ ^ s* # optional # [day-of-week "," ] (?: (?:Mon|Tue|Wed|Thu|Fri|Sat|Sun) , s+ )? # date => day month year (d{1,2}) # day => 1*2DIGIT s+ (Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec) # month-name s* ((?:dd)?dd) # year # FWS s+ # time (dd):(dd):(dd) # time (?: s+ ( [+-] d{4} # standard form | $tz_RE # obsolete form (mostly ignored) | [A-IK-Za-ik-z] # including military (no 'J') ) # time zone (optional) )? s* $ }ox; # Loose parser regex my $loose_RE = qr{ ^ s* # optional (?i: (?:Mon|Tue|Wed|Thu|Fri|Sat|Sun|[A-Z][a-z][a-z]) ,? # Day name + comma )? # (empirically optional) s* (d{1,2}) # day of month [-s]* (?i: (Jan|Feb|Mar|Apr|May|Jun|Jul|Aug|Sep|Oct|Nov|Dec) ) # month [-s]* ((?:dd)?dd) # year s+ (d?d):(d?d) (?: :(d?d) )? # time (?: s+ "? ( [+-] d{4} # standard form | [A-Z]+ # obsolete form (mostly ignored) | GMT [+-] d+ # empirical (converted) | [A-Z]+d+ # bizarre empirical (ignored) | [a-zA-Z/]+ # linux style (ignored) | [+-]{0,2} d{3,5} # corrupted standard form ) "? # time zone (optional) )? (?: s+ ([^)]+) )? # (friendly tz name; empirical) s* .? $ }x; sub _set_parse_method { my $self = shift; croak "Calling object method as class method!" unless ref $self; $self->{parser_method} = shift; return $self; } sub _get_parse_method { my $self = shift; my $method = ref($self) ? $self->{parser_method} : ''; $method ||= '_parse_strict'; } sub new { my $class = shift; my %args = validate( @_, { loose => { type => SCALAR, default => 0, }, year_cutoff => { %{ $validations{year_cutoff} }, default => $class->default_cutoff, }, } ); my $self = bless {}, ref($class)||$class; if (ref $class) { # If called on an object, clone $self->_set_parse_method( $class->_get_parse_method ); $self->set_year_cutoff( $class->year_cutoff ); # and that's it. we don't store much info per object } else { my $parser = $args{loose} ? "loose" : "strict"; $self->$parser(); $self->set_year_cutoff( $args{year_cutoff} ) if $args{year_cutoff}; } $self; } sub clone { my $self = shift; croak "Calling object method as class method!" unless ref $self; return $self->new(); } sub loose { my $self = shift; croak "loose() takes no arguments!" if @_; return $self->_set_parse_method( '_parse_loose' ); } sub strict { my $self = shift; croak "strict() takes no arguments!" if @_; return $self->_set_parse_method( '_parse_strict' ); } sub _parse_strict { my $self = shift; my $date = shift; # Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:05:00 +1100 my @parsed = $date =~ $strict_RE; croak "Invalid format for date!" unless @parsed; my %when; @when{qw( day month year hour minute second time_zone)} = @parsed; return %when; } sub _parse_loose { my $self = shift; my $date = shift; # Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:05:00 +1100 my @parsed = $date =~ $loose_RE; croak "Invalid format for date!" unless @parsed; my %when; @when{qw( day month year hour minute second time_zone)} = @parsed; $when{month} = "Lu$when{month}"; $when{second} ||= 0; return %when; } sub parse_datetime { my $self = shift; croak "No date specified for parse_datetime." unless @_; croak "Too many arguments to parse_datetime." if @_ != 1; my $date = shift; # Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:05:00 +1100 my $method = $self->_get_parse_method(); my %when = %{ $self->$method($date) }; $when{time_zone} ||= '-0000'; my %months = do { my $i = 1; map { $_, $i++ } qw( Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec ); }; $when{month} = $months{$when{month}} or croak "Invalid month `$when{month}'."; $when{year} = $self->fix_year( $when{year} ); $when{time_zone} = $self->determine_timezone( $when{time_zone} ); my $date_time = DateTime->new( %when ); return $date_time; } sub determine_timezone { my $self = shift; my $tz = shift; return '-0000' unless defined $tz; # return quickly if nothing needed return $tz if $tz =~ /^[+-]d{4}$/; $tz =~ s/ ^ [+-] (?=[+-]) //x; # for when there are two signs if (exists $timezones{$tz}) { $tz = $timezones{$tz}; } elsif (substr($tz, 0, 3) eq 'GMT' and length($tz) > 4) { $tz = sprintf "%5.5s", substr($tz,3)."0000"; } elsif ( $tz =~ /^ ([+-]?) (d+) $/x) { my $p = $1||'+'; $tz = sprintf "%s%04d", $p, $2; } else { $tz = "-0000"; } return $tz; } sub set_year_cutoff { my $self = shift; croak "Calling object method as class method!" unless ref $self; validate_pos( @_, $validations{year_cutoff} ); croak "Wrong number of arguments (should be 1) to set_year_cutoff" unless @_ == 1; my $cutoff = shift; $self->{year_cutoff} = $cutoff; return $self; } # rfc2822, 4.3. Obsolete Date and Time # Where a two or three digit year occurs in a date, the year is to be # interpreted as follows: If a two digit year is encountered whose # value is between 00 and 49, the year is interpreted by adding 2000, # ending up with a value between 2000 and 2049. If a two digit year is # encountered with a value between 50 and 99, or any three digit year # is encountered, the year is interpreted by adding 1900. sub default_cutoff { 49; } sub year_cutoff { my $self = shift; croak "Too many arguments (should be 0) to year_cutoff" if @_; (ref $self and $self->{year_cutoff}) or $self->default_cutoff; } sub fix_year { my $self = shift; my $year = shift; return $year if length $year >= 4; # Return quickly if we can my $cutoff = $self->year_cutoff; $year += $year > $cutoff ? 1900 : 2000; return $year; } sub format_datetime { my $self = shift; croak "No DateTime object specified." unless @_; my $dt = $_[0]->clone; $dt->set( locale => 'en_US' ); my $rv = $dt->strftime( "%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S %z" ); $rv =~ s/+0000$/-0000/; $rv; } 1; __END__ =head1 NAME DateTime::Format::Mail - Convert between DateTime and RFC2822/822 formats =head1 SYNOPSIS use DateTime::Format::Mail; # From RFC2822 via class method: my $datetime = DateTime::Format::Mail->parse_datetime( "Sat, 29 Mar 2003 22:11:18 -0800" ); print $datetime->ymd('.'); # "2003.03.29" # or via an object my $pf = DateTime::Format::Mail->new(); print $pf->parse_datetime( "Fri, 23 Nov 2001 21:57:24 -0600" )->ymd; # "2001-11-23" # Back to RFC2822 date use DateTime; my $dt = DateTime->new( year => 1979, month => 7, day => 16, hour => 16, minute => 45, second => 20, time_zone => "Australia/Sydney" ); my $str = DateTime::Format::Mail->format_datetime( $dt ); print $str; # "Mon, 16 Jul 1979 16:45:20 +1000" # or via an object $str = $pf->format_datetime( $dt ); print $str; # "Mon, 16 Jul 1979 16:45:20 +1000" =head1 DESCRIPTION RFCs 2822 and 822 specify date formats to be used by email. This module parses and emits such dates. RFC2822 (April 2001) introduces a slightly different format of date than that used by RFC822 (August 1982). The main correction is that the preferred format is more limited, and thus easier to parse programmatically. Despite the ease of generating and parsing perfectly valid RFC822 and RFC2822 people still get it wrong. So this module provides four things for those handling mail dates: =over 4 =item 1 A strict parser that will only accept RFC2822 dates, so you can see where you're right. =item 2 A strict formatter, so you can generate the right stuff to begin with. =item 3 A I<loose> parser, so you can take the misbegotten output from other programs and turn it into something useful. This includes various minor errors as well as some somewhat more bizarre mistakes. The file F<t/sample_dates> in this module's distribution should give you an idea of what's valid, while F<t/invalid.t> should do the same for what's not. Those regarded as invalid are just a bit B<too> strange to allow. =item 4 Interoperation with the rest of the L<DateTime> suite. These are a collection of modules to handle dates in a modern and accurate fashion. In particular, they make it trivial to parse, manipulate and then format dates. Shifting timezones is a doddle, and converting between formats is a cinch. =back As a future direction, I'm contemplating an even stricter parser that will only accept dates with no obsolete elements. =head1 CONSTRUCTORS =head2 new Creates a new C<DateTime::Format::Mail> instance. This is generally not required for simple operations. If you wish to use a different parsing style from the default, strict, parser then you'll need to create an object. my $parser = DateTime::Format::Mail->new() my $copy = $parser->new(); If called on an existing object then it clones the object. It has two optional named parameters. =over 4 =item * C<loose> should be a true value if you want a loose parser, else either don't specify it or give it a false value. =item * C<year_cutoff> should be an integer greater than or equal to zero specifying the cutoff year. See L<"set_year_cutoff"> for details. =back my $loose = DateTime::Format::Mail->new( loose => 1 ); my $post_2049 = DateTime::Format::Mail->new( year_cutoff => 60 ); =head2 clone For those who prefer to explicitly clone via a method called C<clone()>. If called as a class method it will die. my $clone = $original->clone(); =head1 PARSING METHODS These methods work on either our objects or as class methods. =head2 loose, strict These methods set the parsing strictness. my $parser = DateTime::Format::Mail->new; $parser->loose; $parser->strict; # (the default) my $p = DateTime::Format::Mail->new->loose; =head2 parse_datetime Given an RFC2822 or 822 datetime string, return a C<DateTime> object representing that date and time. Unparseable strings will cause the method to die. See the L<synopsis|/SYNOPSIS> for examples. =head2 set_year_cutoff Two digit years are treated as valid in the loose translation and are translated up to a 19xx or 20xx figure. By default, following the specification of RFC2822, if the year is greater than '49', it's treated as being in the 20th century (19xx). If lower, or equal, then the 21st (20xx). That is, 50 becomes 1950 while 49 is 2049. C<set_year_cutoff()> allows you to modify this behaviour by specifying a different cutoff. The return value is the object itself. $parser->set_year_cutoff( 60 ); =head2 year_cutoff Returns the current cutoff. Can be used as either a class or object method. my $cutoff = $parser->set_year_cutoff; =head2 default_cutoff Returns the default cutoff. A useful method to override for subclasses. my $default = $parser->default_cutoff; =head2 fix_year Takes a year and returns it normalized. my $fixed = $parser->fix_year( 3 ); =head1 FORMATTING METHODS =head2 format_datetime Given a C<DateTime> object, return it as an RFC2822 compliant string. use DateTime; use DateTime::Format::Mail; my $dt = DateTime->new( year => 1979, month => 7, day => 16, time_zone => 'UTC' ); my $mail = DateTime::Format::Mail->format_datetime( $dt ); print $mail, "n"; # or via an object my $formatter = DateTime::Format::Mail->new(); my $rfcdate = $formatter->format_datetime( $dt ); print $rfcdate, "n"; =head1 THANKS Dave Rolsky (DROLSKY) for kickstarting the DateTime project. Roderick A. Anderson for noting where the documentation was incomplete in places. Joshua Hoblitt (JHOBLITT) for inspiring me to check what the standard said about interpreting two digit years. =head1 SUPPORT Support for this module is provided via the datetime@perl.org email list. See L<http://datetime.perl.org/mailing_list.html> for more details. Alternatively, log them via the CPAN RT system via the web or email: http://rt.cpan.org/NoAuth/ReportBug.html?Queue=DateTime%3A%3AFormat%3A%3AMail bug-datetime-format-mail@rt.cpan.org This makes it much easier for me to track things and thus means your problem is less likely to be neglected. =head1 LICENCE AND COPYRIGHT Copyright E<copy> Iain Truskett, 2003. All rights reserved. This library is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the same terms as Perl itself. The full text of the licences can be found in the F<Artistic> and F<COPYING> files included with this module, or in L<perlartistic> and L<perlgpl> in Perl 5.8.1 or later. =head1 AUTHOR Originally written by Iain Truskett <spoon@cpan.org>, who died on December 29, 2003. Maintained by Dave Rolsky <autarch@urth.org>. =head1 SEE ALSO C<datetime@perl.org> mailing list. L<http://datetime.perl.org/> L<perl>, L<DateTime> RFCs 2822 and 822. =cut put the file in /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/DateTime/Format/ if the folders DateTime and Format do not exist then create them... ------- Now make sure esd is not running as a process... if it is, then kill it and try again...

metatron do you use xorg or xfree86 with debian/fluxbox? xfree86 debian sid comes with Xorg

SFTP and using MySecureShell http://mysecureshell.sourceforge.net

no problem... enjoy

Gnome is going to run fine... make sure you have a good swap partition... and Yes! Debian rules!

which platform?

Your compiler is missing, make sure GCC is installed!

HTML isn't hard to learn... you also got plenty of GUI to edit web pages! not as perfect that writing the code by hand... but something to start with. How Server works?! Well... which kind of server's services? Web, FTP etc...; then which kind of platform? Solaris, Linux, Mac, Windows?! If i am you, I will subscribe to one of those online certificate training! they've got plenty of option... it will be more interesting and easier to be disciplined, than having tons of books... and use Google, it's your friend good luck man