Thanks for the reply, i am using a BT3 live CD. I have a card in monitor mode. my concern is that there are several <lenght 0> / <lenght 1> AP's showing. i dont want to connect to the wrong device. Oddly enough i tried this out of the lab environment (at home) using a wrt54g, disabled xmit of essid, airodump found it as soon as my iphone connected. the only exception is that im using WPA2 Personal w/TKIP+AES.